Flags.... how the heck do I get them to stay on there?

 

                            

 

 

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Flags.... how the heck do I get them to stay on there?

 

 

If your like me then you may have joined on organization that displays flags as a matter of honor and respect for out fallen military heroes and their families.

Such a group is  the "PGR". This picture sums up why I ride, It is to honor the fallen and to support/protect  the family in their time of grief.

 

 

 

 

I am the tall one in the middle back and that is my Nomad which I traded on the ST1300.

This would be the middle Tennessee PRG folks at the 2006 Veterans Day Parade.

 

 

 

Understanding Flag Placement On Motorcycles - Where does it go? - Flag Code Explained

 

US Flag Only

If only the US Flag is on your bike, it should either be at the center, or to its "marching right" - on the right side of the motorcycle to the rider's perspective when facing forward.

US Flag And One Other Flag Of Any Type

If the US Flag is on your bike with another, it should be to its "marching right" - on the right side of the motorcycle to the rider's perspective. If the other flag is that of another nation, it should be the same size and at the same height of the US Flag - NO flag should ever be displayed higher than the US Flag.

US Flag And More Than One Other Non-National Flag

If the US Flag is on your bike with several other non-national flags (POW/MIA, ALR, Eagles, Service Banners, etc.) , it should be at center and higher than any of the other flags.

US Flag And More Than One Flag Including Those Of Other Nations

If the US Flag is displayed on your bike with those of any other nation, the flags should be same size and at the same height, with the US Flag to marching right (right side of the vehicle), and others arranged in alphabetical order to the left. Other flags should be arranged in order of decreasing importance - Nations first, states (in order of admittance) and territories second, military third (in order of establishment), and then any others. Again, no flag should fly higher than the US Flag, but the US Flag should be no higher than that of any other nation's displayed.


Rationale from the American Legion Riders

Since the small bike flags we use are all but invisible from the front (when mounted on the rear), the concept of "Flag's own right" should be used with the vantage from the rear of the bike. (This would place the Flag on the on left-hand, rear of your bike). This concept, unfortunately, overlooks a more applicable concept.

If you equate the motion of your bike with marching, and you equate traffic with a procession, another portion of the Flag Code becomes the obvious choice for display of the Flag alone, or with another:

Rule 9: "The Flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags, should be either on the marching right; that is, the Flag's own right, or, if there is a line of other flags, in front of the center of that line."

The second portion of this rule does not work well with most motorcycles, since there usually is no means to mount the Flag in front (in the direction of travel) of the others if all flags are to be mounted at the rear of the bike. In this case, we rely on:

Rule 10: "The Flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs." Included in this would be POW/MIA flags and American Legion Riders flags.

Finally, if you are displaying another country's flag along with the US Flag, they both should be at the same height and the same size, and the US Flag should be displayed on the right side (again, marching right). This is basically Rule 11: "When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace. The order of precedence for flags generally is National flags (US first, then others in alphabetical order in English), State (host state first, then others in the order of admission) and territories (Washington DC, Puerto Rico, etc.), Military (in order of establishment: Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard), then other."

 

 

If your not a group such as the PGR, you may just want to display the flag of your favorite football team or some other institution.

In either case here are a few ideas on flag mounts.

 

 

Available from Gettysburg Flag Works, Inc.

This in an inexpensive mount designed to attach to your License plate. It goes for around $20 dollars. Flags are also available from this site as well. These are great for parade type speeds and I will guess probably good up to 45 MPH but I would be hesitant to drive at interstate speeds with a flag on a wooden pole.

 

 

 

                  

 

 

 

Available from SSP FLAGS, LLC

 

This one, is designed for car windows but seem to be marketed to work on Harley Tour Pak trunks. I have a Tour-Pak on my bike and they really don't fit like a glove, but they will work. Closing the trunk lid on the mount lip will secure the flag mount and flag. I bought these to use for another purpose shown on down the page a bit.

 

 

The next two pictures side by side are for a round rack (left) and for a square rack (right).

 

   

 

 

 

The last picture is for mounting on a sissy bar or passenger backrest.

 

 

 

CADET                               BANDIT 

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PATRIOT                                  TOMAHAWK 
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Tag Flag Products

 Attachment Plates are all made from quality 12 ga. 304 stainless steel, laser cut to design specifications and polished to a bright mirror finish for years of carefree use. The Plates attach to your existing tag and holder in less than 5 minutes, with one wrench. The Plate is attractive enough to leave on your bike even without the flag.

The pictures to the left are self explanatory.

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Click on the picture for more information on this product

 

 

CLICK ON THE PICTURE ....also available at Sam's Club

 

    

 

    

 

   

 

     

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What I am doing at this point in time.. 

 

One thing about flags which is just plain common sense, do not mount the flag where it can interfere with the safe operation of your bike. These flag blow all over the place at 70 MPH. A large flag really could wrap around your head and blind you.... Just because you are going forward doesn't mean the flag will always fly directly behind you.

 

 

 

 

This is how I used the nylon window mount poles in conjunction with some Ram-Mount arms and ball mounts. Fully adjustable and quickly removable. I like Ram Mount products. They make all types of interesting mounts from mounts for laptops in patrol cars to fishing pole mounts for boats. What I use on the ST1300 are 2 of the 5" arms for the 1" balls, 4 of the plastic ball mounts of which 2 are mounted underneath the GIVI rack mounting plate and the other two are attached to the nylon flag poles you commonly see which attach to the window in an automobile which are held in place when you roll up the window.  Without the trunk on the bike I can go down to the 1.75" Ram Mount arms but with the trunk I have to use the 5" arms for clearance reasons. Looking at the pictures, you get the idea. Click on a picture to enlarge it.        

      

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Basic small flag seems most are this size. I really needed 11"x16" flags but a State Flag in that size is impossible to find. Well, find it cheaply.... 12"x18" flags seem to be very common at places that sell sporting flags and such.

 

 

A word of warning, Use caution when riding with a flag of any size on your bike. The bigger the flag the more you will feel the effects of crosswinds which could affect you bikes handling.

 

 

More links

http://www.motoleather.com/moac--motorcycle-flags.html

http://www.sjfdistributor.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=SD&Category_Code=FL

Pop in pop out flag poles

 

 

 

 

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